WASHINGTON NEWS COUNCIL
COMPLAINT HEARING
HUBERT LOCKE vs. THE SEATTLE TIMES
TOWN HALL SEATTLE ł OCT. 13, 2001
WELCOME AND INTRODUCTIONS
The Hearing was called to order by WNC Chairman
Robert Utter at 9:30 a.m. Utter welcomed those present and gave a brief
description of the News Council. He noted that WNC brochures and other
materials were available at the side table.
Utter asked WNC members present to introduce
themselves. Present were:
PUBLIC MEMBERS ł Bill
Gates Sr., Margo Gordon, Walter Howe, Charles Nordhoff, Mike Poulson,
Eddie Reed, and R.Y Woodhouse.
MEDIA MEMBERS ł Larry
Cali, Tom Cock Jr., Chuck Dunsire, Sue Frause, John Irby, and Herb
Robinson.
(Unable to attend: Media
Members ł Susan Han, R.T. Nelson, Cliff Rowe, and Steve Silha; Public
Members ł Don Brunell, Pat Herbold, and Wes Uhlman.)
During the introductions, Council members Margo
Gordon and Herb Robinson announced that they would participate in the
discussion but would recuse themselves from voting because of close
personal or professional relationships with Prof. Hubert Locke and/or
The Seattle Times.
Utter declared that under the WNCĂs bylaws, half
of the Council members constituted a quorum for a hearing. He said that
more than half of the members were present, and there was a balance
between Media and Public members, as the bylaws require. He declared that
there was a proper quorum and the hearing could proceed.
Utter noted that the hearing was not a trial, but
a serious discussion of the issues raised by the complaint. As non-voting
chairman, he would preside and keep the proceedings on schedule, he said.
Utter said the purpose of the
hearing was to consider a formal complaint by Prof.
Hubert Locke against The Seattle Times. Prof. Locke submitted his
complaint in August. The News CouncilĂs Executive/Complaints Committee
reviewed it and determined that it raised addressable questions of
journalistic performance ł which Utter said was the WNCĂs only criterion
at the initial review stage. The Council does not consider the merits at
that stage. The Council accepted Prof. LockeĂs complaint, notified The
Seattle Times and sent them copies of his complaint, Utter said.
The Council also sent The Times a copy of the Waiver of Right to Sue that Prof. Locke had signed.
Utter noted that was an important part of the WNCĂs procedures: Requiring
that complainants who want to use the News CouncilĂs process sign a waiver
form, which is an enforceable contract, stating that they will not sue the
media organization for libel. The News Council is an alternative to
litigation, which is good for both sides, Utter said.
When The Seattle Times received the
complaint, he noted, the News CouncilĂs 30-day ¦Resolution Period˛ began.
Both sides were urged to try to reach a resolution of their dispute within
30 days. Under WNC procedures, the Council checked with them after 10
days, and again after 20 days, and offered its help ł although Utter noted
the Council is not a Mediation or Arbitration Service. However, the 30-day
period expired on September 21 with the two sides unable to reach
agreement, so the WNC confirmed this Hearing date and invited Prof. Locke
and The Times to attend.
Utter noted that media participation in News
Council hearings was entirely voluntary, and The Times had chosen
not to participate today, which was their perfect right. Utter said the
WNC was pleased that The Times had fully participated in the News
CouncilĂs process up to this point by responding to Prof. LockeĂs
complaint in detail. The exchange of letters between Prof. Locke and
Michael Fancher, Executive Editor of The Seattle Times, was posted
on the WNC website and printed copies were also available, Utter said.
Utter said the Council regretted
that The Times had chosen not to participate. He said that the
Hearing process, with an open, public exchange of views about the news
mediaĂs professional performance, can play an important educational role
in explaining how and why journalists do what they do. He said that the
Hearings were an opportunity for members of the news media to educate
citizens and be publicly accountable -- in much the same way that the
media hold other institutions in our society publicly accountable.
However, he said The TimesĂ decision not to
participate would not prejudice the News Council in any way. The
TimesĂ letters to Hubert Locke from Executive Editor Michael Fancher
would be read into the record, and the newspaperĂs position might still
prevail, Utter said. However, he noted that without The TimesĂ
presence, Council members would be unable to ask specific questions that
might arise about The TimesĂ decision-making process. Utter said
that Fancher of The Times had been informed he could reconsider and
decide to participate any time up to 9:30 a.m., when the hearing began,
but he had obviously chosen not to do so.
Utter said that the Questions for Council
consideration were:
Did The Seattle Times inaccurately
represent the work of the Youth Safety Task Force regarding the issue of
race in:
a.
July 22 news story (¦Youth-oriented Mardi Gras task force passes on race
issue˛)
b.
July 24 editorial (¦Youth task force fails at its task˛)
c. July 29 ¦Inside The Times˛ column (¦Red lines on a map spur thoughtful
talk about race˛)
Utter noted that Council members had all read and
reviewed the Complaint, and the exchange of letters between Prof. Locke
and Michael Fancher, and they were ready to consider the matter.
Utter noted that under Council guidelines, Media
Members of the Council must recuse themselves in any cases involving media
organizations where they are currently employed. Public Members of the
Council must recuse themselves in any cases involving their own company or
organization. Council members also could recuse themselves, or abstain
from voting, if they believe they have a conflict of interest. Council
members had been asked to discuss any potential conflicts of interest with
him and with the Executive/Complaints Committee before the hearing. They
also could choose to participate in the discussion but abstain from
voting.
Utter asked if any other Council members planned
to recuse themselves or to abstain from voting besides Margo Gordon and
Herb Robinson. There were none.
Utter said the Hearing would then proceed. He said
it would begin by having the Complainant, Prof. Locke, state his position
in 15 minutes or less. Then Michael FancherĂs letters would be read into
the record. Then Prof. Locke would have time to rebut Mr. FancherĂs
position. Then Utter would read a final letter from Mr. Fancher of The
Times into the record.
After that, he said, the News Council would ask
questions and deliberate among themselves. That would be followed by a
closing statement from Prof. Locke in which any significant errors that
had been introduced into the discussion during the deliberations could be
addressed.
COMPLAINANTĂS CASE
Chairman Utter asked Prof. Locke to state his case
in 15 minutes or less.
Locke said that his communication with The
Seattle Times and the WNC had been hampered by the fact that he was
living on the East Coast this fall. Consequently, he said that several
important communications had been delayed or not received. He noted that
he had not seen the October 4 letter from Michael Fancher until he
returned to Seattle on October 11, because it apparently had been mailed
only to his Seattle address. ThatĂs also when he first saw the October 10
letters from the WNC. However, Locke added that if the communications
between himself and The Times had been in perfect order, it would
not have changed the substance of his complaint.
He reiterated that his complaint concerned the
wording of three Times stories on the work of the MayorĂs Youth
Safety Task Force that he co-chaired. He said that to describe the Task
ForceĂs treatment of the issue of race, the news story used the term
¦passed on,˛ the editorial used ¦left out,˛ and Michael FancherĂs column
used the word ¦ignored.˛ Locke said that was in spite of the fact that the
Task ForceĂs final report contained an entire section entitled: ¦Mardi
Gras, the Media, and Race.˛
Locke said that for the newspaper to state that
the Task Force had not had an extended discussion of race was wrong. He
called the stories ¦blatantly inaccurate.˛
He noted that he had told The Times that he
would be willing to meet with them to discuss their different views on the
issue of race and Mardi Gras, but that was not the substance of his
complaint. He referenced Michael FancherĂs letter of October 14, which
stated that only the July 22 news story should be of concern to the News
Council, because the editorial and column were expressions of opinion and
thus beyond the CouncilĂs purview. He said he disagreed with that
distinction, again stating that he believed the editorial and column had
inaccurately described the Task ForceĂs work. Locke noted that he was
acting alone in his complaint to the WNC, and had not sought to involve
any other members of the Task Force.
He also noted that it was critically important to
have an accurately informed citizenry for the proper functioning of a free
and democratic society. He said this and other city governments, in times
of crisis, often asked panels of citizens to sort out the complexities of
controversial issues and events. If citizens are to be asked to do that,
he said, and give time and attention to difficult and often-volatile
issues of public concern, they should expect their work to be reported
accurately by the media. He contended that The Seattle Times had
not reported the Task ForceĂs work accurately in this case, and that was
the substance of his complaint.
RESPONDENTĂS CASE
The Seattle Times chose not to participate
in the Hearing, so WNC Chairman Bob Utter, in an effort to be
¦scrupulously fair˛ to The Times, read into the record Times
Executive Editor Michael R. FancherĂs letter of
August 28 to Prof. Locke, a copy of which was sent to the Washington
News Council.
COMPLAINANTĂS REBUTTAL
WNC Chairman Utter then offered Prof. Locke a
chance to rebut FancherĂs letter. Locke read part of his
September 17 letter to Fancher: ¦The
substance of your response is that both the news and editorial staffs of The Times take issue with the way in which the Task Force dealt
with the question of race and the Mardi Gras event, as well as with the
conclusions the Task Force reached—.The burden of my complaint, however,
is that The Times used appallingly misleading language to express
its sentiments.˛
Locke stated he had no quarrel with the fact that The Times disagreed with what the Task Force did. He said his
objection was that he believed The Times had used words to describe
the Task ForceĂs work that, according to ¦common dictionary usage,˛ were
inaccurate.
Locke said that The Times had chosen, he
believed, to treat this matter as though it ¦involves only differences of
opinion˛ regarding the treatment of race during the Mardi Gras events.
Locke said: ¦I respectfully decline to be drawn into that argument,˛
reiterating his view that The Times ¦inaccurately˛ described the
work of the Task Force by saying it did not deal with the issue of race.
RESPONDENTĂS REBUTTAL
WNC Chairman Utter then read into the record
excerpts from FancherĂs letter of October 4.
QUESTIONS FROM WNC MEMBERS
Utter than opened the Hearing to questions from WNC
members.
Sue Frause, Media Member, noted that The
Seattle Times had offered Locke an opportunity to write an op-ed piece
but he had declined. She asked: ¦Can you give your reasons for that?˛
Locke responded that he did not wish to, in
effect, ¦accede˛ to The TimesĂ position that this dispute was a
¦matter of difference of opinion˛ between the two parties. He said that if The TimesĂ reporting was inaccurate, they should ¦say as much˛ and
not ask him to do it in a guest column or a letter to the editor.
Tom Cock, Media Member, said his question
concerned the use of words, such as ¦punted,˛ ¦ignored˛ and ¦left out.˛
He asked Locke: ¦If you were a reporter—how would you characterize how
race was covered as an issue?˛
Locke replied that he ¦certainly would not˛ have
said ¦left out˛ or ¦passed˛ on the issue.˛ He suggested that The Times stories could have reported what the Task Force report said, and could
have discussed its section on race. He repeated his contention that the
¦ordinary dictionary definition˛ of the words ¦passed on,˛ ¦left out˛ and
¦ignored˛ wrongly left the impression that the Task Force ¦deliberately
omitted˛ dealing with the topic of race in its report. ¦That I submit is
not the case.˛
Walt Howe, Public Member, expressed his
thanks to Locke for chairing the Task Force, which represented ¦a strong
sense of community responsibility and a lot of courage.˛ He asked two
questions: Did Locke ¦respond in any way˛ to the P-IĂs
characterization of the Task Force? And would Locke ¦go through the
chronology˛ of how the section on race was written into the Task ForceĂs
final report and what their discussion included?
Locke said he never saw the P-IĂs editorial
and didnĂt know about it until he read the reference in FancherĂs October
4 letter, so he did not respond in any way. As for the chronology, he said
that he and his Task Force Co-Chair, Matt Griffin, ¦from the very outset˛
agreed that they would ¦have to deal with this question of race.˛ They
agreed that ¦The report would have no credibility whatsoever if we did not
deal with the racial dimensions of the Mardi Gras tumult˛ ł precisely
because the press had made that ¦such a prominent feature of its
discussion.˛ He said they were indeed ¦quite prepared˛ to have such a
discussion, and that many members of the Task Force expressed ¦not only a
willingness but an urgent desire˛ to do so.
But Locke said he was concerned over two points:
First, to do that in an open meeting ran two
risks: First, people might not ¦feel free˛ to express their views,
concerns and anxieties. He said ¦parenthetically˛ that while he had
respect for the stateĂs Open Meetings law, ¦the quality of discussion that
one gets in open meetings leaves a lot to be desired ł and thatĂs the
most generous way I can put it.˛ He added: ¦I did not think therefore that
we could get a qualitative discussion (of race) in an open meeting.˛
Second, he said: ¦There is no way of controlling
what indeed the media will choose to report˛ about those discussions. For
example, he said that the Task Force, at its first meeting, was given by
the Seattle Police Department about 40 minutes of both police and amateur
videotapes of the violence at Pioneer Square, including footage of the
Friday night activities that preceded the Fat Tuesday violence. He said it
was ¦quite clear˛ that on Friday night the ¦overwhelming amount of
vandalism˛ was committed by ¦young white youths.˛ He said the police made
very few arrests that night, partly because they were pelted with bottles
and other debris. ¦If the police had made arrests as aggressively on
Friday night, as they did the following Tuesday night,˛ there would have
been a ¦much more balanced set of arrestees.˛ Locke noted that of the 79
arrests after Fat Tuesday, 80% of them were ¦black youngsters.˛ He noted
that the media had focused on that violence. He that the death on Tuesday
night led to a perception that the violence was primarily racially
motivated. He said that to discuss that in a public meeting would
immediately involve a discussion of criticism of how the media dealt with
the situation in the first place. He said that once it was clear that the
Task Force would not do this in an open meeting, he drafted some language
for the final report dealing with that fact. He said that the committee
reviewed and discussed it at some length, but took out one relevant
paragraph after some members of the Task Force objected.
Charles Dunsire, Media Member, noted that
the Task ForceĂs final report said that significant factors in the Pioneer
Square violence included age, gender, and economic status. He quoted the
reportĂs statement that ¦Race is the easiest and least useful of such
characteristics ł least useful because it permits stereotypes to surface
while telling us nothing of value for preventing reoccurrences.˛ Dunsire
asked: ¦Why isnĂt it fair therefore to conclude˛ that the Task Force had
decided to ignore race in seeking to determine the causes of violence?
Locke responded that the Task Force was quite
clear on the numbers on arrests by race. But he added: ¦Having said that,
what else are we expected to say by way of either conclusion or
recommendation?˛ He asked: ¦Are we then to conclude that the bulk of black
youths are criminally prone or should be put under some sort of criminal
observation?˛ He said that about half of the arrestees were either
high-school dropouts or had been expelled by the school system. Are we to
¦round up all black youths between the ages of 17 and 23˛ until Mardi Gras
is over, he asked. He said that such an approach was ¦not useful.˛
Eddie Reed, Public Member, said he thought
it was fair to say that the Task Force did have a discussion around the
issue of race. He asked if it was then also fair to say that the words
used by The Times in its headlines and stories ¦had an influence on
the readers˛ in perceiving the work of the panel.
Locke agreed that was a ¦fair characterization.˛
He said if he had read those stories as an average citizen, he would
¦assume˛ that the Task Force ¦simply did not discuss the matter of race at
all.˛
John Irby, Media Member, said there
appeared to be ¦some agreement that the issue of race was not discussed in
public˛ by the Task Force, and was included only in discussion of the
draft of one section of the final report. He asked Locke how much time was
actually spent discussing race.
Locke replied that during one two-hour meeting,
about ¦a quarter˛ of the time was devoted to that discussion. He noted
that one member of the Task Force, Seattle City Councilman Peter
Steinbrueck, was ¦quite vocal˛ that he did not want the section on race
included at all in the final report. Locke said the group spent ¦at least
a half hour˛ discussing that section of the draft report. He said he
agreed with The TimesĂ characterization that the Task Force ¦did
not have an open, two-hour˛ meeting on race. ¦That, admittedly, did not
occur,˛ he said, adding that the discussion of the draft language of the
final report did occur at the last meeting.
Chuck Nordhoff, Public Member, said he was
¦somewhat handicapped˛ because most of what he knew about the Mardi Gras
incidents and the Task ForceĂs work came from The Seattle Times. He
said he was trying to make a distinction between the written report of the
Task Force and its verbal deliberations. He asked Locke to what extent,
during the Task ForceĂs first seven meetings, did they ¦consider race as a
contributing factor to the violence and the disruptions and the death˛
that occurred during Mardi Gras. And, as a corollary, referring back to
Tom CockĂs previous question, he asked how Locke ¦in an affirmative
sense˛ would have written a news story about the first seven meetings.
Locke responded that the first two meetings were
closed, since they occurred before the judgeĂs ruling that the meetings
must be open. He said the subsequent meetings reviewed the videotapes and
went over background information about the incidents and the arrestees. He
noted there were several brief discussions of race in those meetings. He
said that some of the violence on Fat Tuesday was by ¦black youths against
other black youths,˛ particularly black women on other black women. He
said he found it ¦quite surprising˛ that had not been dealt with by the
media. He said the Task Force had occasion several times to discuss race.
Nordhoff asked again how Locke would have
written the stories characterizing the Task ForceĂs work.
Locke said he was ¦very happy˛ that the press was
not there in the first two meetings, because the Task Force had material
from the Seattle Police, who were still trying to identify violent
perpetrators from the videotapes. He said openness could have compromised
those efforts. He said he thought The TimesĂ editorial and
Mike FancherĂs column ¦could have raked the Task Force over the coals˛
about its conclusions, but he still did not think The Times
¦properly used the correct language˛ to describe what the Task Force did.
¦ThatĂs really what the issue boils down to for me,˛ he said. They used
¦appallingly misleading˛ language.
Larry Cali, Media Member, asked if Locke
thought that there was ¦fair coverage and accurate coverage˛ of the Task
ForceĂs work by ¦other media outlets.˛
Locke said that question reminded him of the
paragraph that was deleted from the report. He said that he had spent ¦two
gruesome days˛ going through every story that the print media had written
about the Mardi Gras events, and had in the draft report made some
critical comments about them. He said he found several stories that he
found ¦reason to quarrel with,˛ including those in The Stranger and
the Post-Intelligencer, but the panel decided not to include that
paragraph.
Mike Poulson, Public Member, asked Locke if
he had called Mike Fancher to try to schedule a meeting to talk about a
possible resolution of the complaint, as the News Council had requested in
its October 10 letter to Locke.
Locke said that he was ¦sorry˛ he had not made an
effort to contact Fancher, as the WNC had requested. He noted that he was
¦just passing through˛ Seattle on this trip, and was on his way to
Berkeley to chair a board meeting, and ¦just didnĂt have time˛ to make an
attempt to reach Fancher or anyone else at The Times.
COUNCIL DELIBERATIONS
Utter said that the Council would now make
comments on the case, followed by a vote on whether or not to uphold the
complaint ł first by written ballots, then a show of hands. He said the
Council would vote on each of the three questions ł relating to the news
story, the editorial and the ¦Inside The Times˛ column ł separately.
Members could vote yes, no or abstain. A tie vote would mean that the
complaint (or portion of the complaint) had NOT been upheld. Each memberĂs
vote was public information and would be included in the written summary,
Utter said.
Larry Cali, Media Member, said that it was
unclear whether Michael FancherĂs column had been based on the news
stories or on the report itself, and he thought that made a difference.
Bill Gates Sr., Public Member, said he was
sympathetic to the notion that an ¦enormous degree of sensitivity˛ should
be assigned to the treatment of the work of citizen Task Forces, which are
¦valuable engines of society.˛ He said they should not be unduly
criticized because it would make people hesitant to participate. But he
said he was unable to see ¦anything inaccurate˛ in The TimesĂ
coverage. He said he thought the Task Force did ¦pass on˛ the issue of
race, as the news story had reported. He said the editorialĂs statement
that the group ¦fails at its task˛ was ¦the harshest thing˛ and ¦heavy
stuff.˛ But he said that was an expression of opinion, not a statement of
fact.
He noted that the News Council had discussed a
similar issue in its Hearing in Olympia (Bernard Friedman vs. The
Olympian), which concerned an editorial.
¦That headline (in The Times) is clearly
opinion,˛ he said, when they say the group ¦failed at its task.˛ He added:
¦I yield to the proposition that the media is entitled to enormous
latitude˛ in expressing opinion. He said it seemed to him that all the
words used in The TimesĂ stories ¦fairly describe˛ what the Task
Force report did. He said: ¦The harshest factual word is the word
‘ignored.ò That ¦gives me the most trouble˛ because it goes ¦a bit beyond
what actually happened here.˛
He then read the full quote from Michael FancherĂs
column: ¦Most disappointing was the decision by a mayoral task force on
youth safety to ignore race in exploring last springĂs Mardi Gras riots.˛
Gates said: ¦When I read it in that sense, it
seems to me the word loses quite a bit of its mustard.˛ He said that word
¦ignore˛ may be a bit strong, but ¦IĂm unable to get to the point of
finding it inaccurate.˛
As for The TimesĂ offer to publish an op-ed
piece by Locke, Gates said he didnĂt think that had much to do with the
News CouncilĂs hearings. If offering space to complainants was all the
media had to do, he noted, the News Council ¦would not need to have any
more of these hearings because thatĂs such a simple way out.˛
Roz Woodhouse, Public Member, asked a
procedural question of Chairman Utter: Should WNC members comment without
expressing conclusions during this phase, or was it appropriate to express
opinions? Utter said members ¦may do either.˛ He added that Council
members could also question other members during this phase.
Woodhouse said she was moved to look at the
original mission or ¦charge˛ of the Task Force. She said she saw nothing
¦that they must identify race as one of the broader social issues of youth
violence˛ on Fat Tuesday. She said ¦at no point˛ did it refer even to
¦broader social issues such as race.˛ So when she read the words ¦failed,˛
¦passed on˛ or ¦ignored,˛ that suggested that the Task Force had
specifically been ¦charged with doing those things.˛ But ¦I donĂt see that
in the charge to the Task Force,˛ she said.
Chuck Dunsire, Media Member, said he
thought there was a ¦clear distinction˛ between the TimesĂ
editorial, the Fancher column, and news stories. He said the first two
were clearly expressions of opinion and fair comment. So he said the
question thus came down to the ¦accuracy of the news story˛ as to whether
or not the Task Force decided to ¦pass˛ on the issue of race.
Walt Howe, Public Member, said: ¦First of
all, I think The Seattle Times ought to be ashamed of itself˛ for
not participating in the Hearing. ¦They have been a distinguished part of
this community since the turn of the century˛ and ¦they hope and expect˛
strong community support. He said they ¦very strongly support an open
dialogue of the most sensitive issues łapparently except when they are
involved,˛ he said. He said this was not a de minimus issue that
Prof. Locke had raised, but a concern raised by a distinguished citizen
who had volunteered to take on a challenging task of great importance to
the community, and of great sensitivity.
He added that the citizen Task Force ¦took the
best of Dr. Locke, and it seems to me that it demands the best of the
media as well. And not to be here to be a part of examining whether or not
they met that standard seems to me a disservice to the community.˛
He also said that as for Prof. Locke accepting
The TimesĂ offer of an op-ed piece: ¦This is the sort of issue that
could have been constructively furthered by an op-ed piece,˛ he said. ¦I
wish that the dialogue— could have been pursued through an op-ed.˛ He said
that the words used in the three stories were ¦clearly gray areas,˛ and he
didnĂt like any of those words in the characterization of a citizen task
force. But to call them ¦poor journalism˛ was ¦a hurdle for me.˛
He said that the distinction between news stories
and opinion pieces was a valid one, but in the ¦total context˛ did not
seem so unfair that the Council should condemn the newspaper. He said he
was more bothered by the news story and the headline: ¦IĂm not sure that
the article and headline adequately characterize˛ the work of the Task
Force and the degree to which it did discuss the issue of race. He said
he was undecided how he would vote and would wait until he heard other
Council membersĂ comments.
Charles Nordhoff, Public Member, expressed
¦frustration˛ that ¦The Seattle Times is not here to explain itself
and be open to questions.˛ He said he was still unable to juxtapose what
Prof. Locke had characterized as ¦appallingly inaccurate˛ reporting on the
one hand and ¦wonderfully accurate˛ reporting on the other hand. He said:
¦I donĂt know what the right way to report this would have been.˛ He said
the words ¦passed on˛ were not purely factual or purely neutral, but were
not that far away from ¦did not take up or did not explore at length.˛ But
he said the burden was on the complainant to make it ¦crystal clear to me˛
what the right words might have been. Referring again to Tom CockĂs
earlier question, he asked what other words might have been used, how else
could the story have been written, and what would Prof. Locke have said.
Tom Cock, Media Member, said he was trying
to ¦get to the usage of those words˛ and see what other words might have
been used. He said he had to agree that he didnĂt get ¦an affirmative
answer˛ as to how it could have been written differently. He said
editorial comment gave license to pick the words that the writer wants.
Sue Frause, Media Member, said she was
¦pretty much right down the middle on this journalistically.˛ She said if
she had been the headline writer, she would have used ¦punts,˛ because she
likes to use sports terms. ¦I think thatĂs a little softer than ‘passes
onĂ the issue of race.˛ She added: ¦I think The Seattle Times comes
across as a little bit arrogant in their response to us. I think theyĂre
arrogant in that they didnĂt show up.˛ She said that when a paper is
¦hurling criticisms˛ of people who volunteer their time, ¦maybe they
should criticize the format instead of the people that actually gave their
time on the committee.˛
John Irby, Media Member, said that Fancher
made an argument for making a distinction between news stories and
editorials, but that was often lost on the public. ¦Many readers do look
at everything the same,˛ he said. ¦That is a failing on the mediaĂs part.˛
He said that editorial writers often will use news stories as the basis
for expressing their opinions, but that was not the case here. He noted
that the editorial writer had interviewed several people before writing
the editorial. He said the word ¦punted˛ to him indicated ¦there was a
ball that no one wanted, and they got rid of it.˛ But he said that in the
news article, ¦passed on,˛ indicated that there was never any ball.
However, he said they had explained what they were talking about when they
used that phrase in the article.
Eddie Reed, Public Member, said that as a
citizen in general, observing the whole scene around the Mardi Gras
incidents was ¦a very divisive issue.˛ He said the media had a
responsibility to take into account the sensibility and climate of the
community. He said the mediaĂs ¦bully pulpit˛ was an ¦awesome
responsibility.˛ He said that their choices of words could either ¦create
more division and more argument˛ or help ¦calm the waters.˛ He said he
knew what the ¦climate of the community˛ was at that time, and that to see
those words in the newspaper, ¦the emotion that it caused and the ripple
effect it had out in the community—.was tremendous. The impact, I donĂt
think we can underestimate that.˛
He said he did not view the complaint as ¦merely a
debate of semantics,˛ but as ¦an issue of responsibility.˛ He said asking
¦why it (the media) chooses to do what it does˛ was a public concern and
that was the benefit of these hearings. He said: ¦I think no malice was
really intended,˛ but it ¦was an unfortunate choice of words.˛ He said he
was still ¦learning on the fly˛ what the media do, and that ¦public
discourse˛ was a ¦very valuable thing.˛
Larry Cali, Media Member, said he thought
that ¦this is a debate on semantics.˛ He said there was a difference
between ¦opinion˛ and ¦observation.˛ Asked to clarify, he asked if the
term ¦passed on˛ was an opinion or an observation. As a reporter, he said
those were two separate ways of reporting something, If it was an opinion,
it took away the objectivity of a reporter. If it was an observation, that
was fair reporting.
Mike Poulson, Public Member, said he
¦wanted to indicate my extreme disappointment that The Seattle Times
did not see fit to come and participate in this process.˛ But he also said
he was ¦disappointed that Prof. Locke didnĂt find some way to arrange to
meet with them,˛ because this was the type of issue that ¦face to face,
may have been worked out.˛
COMPLAINANTĂS FINAL STATEMENT
Utter then said Prof. Locke could offer his
rebuttal. Locke said he had ¦no rebuttal.˛ He said he wanted to ¦thank
very genuinely this Council for accepting˛ his complaint, and for a
¦thoughtful, engaged and helpful discussion.˛ He added: ¦I have learned a
great deal from the comments this morning.˛ He then noted that he had to
catch a plane and would have to leave before the CouncilĂs final vote.
RESPONDENTĂS FINAL STATEMENT
Chairman Utter then read
Michael FancherĂs October
8 letter into the record, ¦in an effort to be absolutely fair to The
Times even though they are not here.˛ He said the Council now had before
it all the correspondence that the paper had submitted.
VOTE ON COMPLAINT
Utter said it was now time for the Council to vote
on the complaint. He reminded WNC members that the complainant had the
burden of proof and persuasion.
He distributed note cards to each member, and asked
them to vote separately on each of the three questions and to sign their
cards.
Utter then asked Council members to mark their
ballots (yes, no or abstain) as he read the questions:
Question
#1 ł Did The Seattle Times inaccurately represent the work of the
Youth Safety Task Force regarding the issue of race in its July 22 news
story (¦Youth-oriented Mardi Gras task force passes on race issue˛)?
Question #2 ł Did The
Seattle Times inaccurately represent the work of the Youth Safety Task
Force regarding the issue of race in its July 24 editorial (¦Youth task
force fails at its task˛)?
Question #3 ł Did The
Seattle Times inaccurately represent the work of the Youth Safety Task
Force regarding the issue of race in its July 29 ¦Inside The Times˛ column
(¦Red lines on a map spur thoughtful talk about race˛)?
Utter collected the ballots, counted the votes and
announced that the complaint had been denied on all three questions. He
asked for a show of hands of all those who voted ¦no˛ on all three issues.
Then he asked for those who had voted ¦yes˛ on any of the three
questions. Utter said: ¦ItĂs clear that the complainantĂs complaint has
not been sustained.˛
On Question #1 (news story), the vote was 10-1 not
to uphold the complaint.
Voting "NO" were: Larry Cali, Tom Cock, Chuck Dunsire, Sue Frause, Bill
Gates Sr., Walt Howe, John Irby, Chuck Nordhoff, Mike Poulson, and Eddie
Reed. Voting "YES" was: R.Y. Woodhouse.
On Question #2 (editorial), the vote was 11-0 not to uphold the complaint.
Voting "NO" were: Larry Cali, Tom Cock, Chuck Dunsire, Sue Frause, Bill
Gates Sr., Walt Howe, John Irby, Chuck Nordhoff, Mike Poulson, Eddie Reed,
and R.Y. Woodhouse.
On Question #3 (column), the vote was 10-1 not to uphold the complaint.
Voting "NO" were: Larry Cali, Tom Cock, Chuck Dunsire, Sue Frause, Bill
Gates Sr., Walt Howe, John Irby, Chuck Nordhoff, Mike Poulson, and Eddie
Reed. Voting "YES" was: R.Y. Woodhouse.
CLOSING REMARKS
Utter said the vote concluded the
Washington News CouncilĂs Complaint Hearing. He said that a brief Press
Release summarizing the results would go out soon. A Written Summary would
be available and posted on the website next week.
Utter thanked members of the Council
for their participation. He also thanked Prof. Locke for his
participation.
Utter said it had been an intellectually
honest process. The opportunity for people to express varying opinions was
educational and helpful. He thanked members of the media and members of
the public who attended. He said he hoped the media would report on
todayĂs proceedings. He thanked TV Seattle for filming the hearing.
He said that members of
the public need to know that if they feel damaged in some way by the
media, and are unable to resolve their concerns with the media outlet,
they now have somewhere to turn for a fair hearing of their complaint. And
the media need to know that they have a forum to help educate the public
about how they do their jobs. ThatĂs what the News Council is all about,
he said.
The Hearing was adjourned
at 11:30 a.m.
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